Mothers Angela Kennecke and Celia Farmer are now part of a club that no one wants to join. Celia lost her 14-year-old daughter, Mali, to suicide. Angela and Celia share how they have coped and what has helped them, as well as what has not. Both agree that reaching outside of themselves to help others is among one of the most healing things they have done. They share their reflections on this journey through grief in this podcast.